Losing 21 Pounds at 47 After Quitting Keto and Fasting

Jill: If I go back to my mind where I'm not supposed to eat this much or this food, I'm going down the same rabbit hole. So I've actually gotten results with this and I don't plan on changing it.

Nikkiey: Hey everyone, welcome to our WarriorBabe interview with our veteran WarriorBabe, Jill. Jill has been a WarriorBabe for seven months now. She started at 177 pounds, and you're 5 foot 7, 47 years old, and now at 156 pounds. That's a 21-pound drop. And Jill, you are looking hot. You are looking hot. Your transformation has been insanely incredible. You literally came into WarriorBabe and you just started putting in work. You have just been head down, focused, doing it. So everyone, Jill is here to share some pointers for you, babe, so that you can adopt some of her strategies to your own journey moving forward. So welcome, Jill. I'm excited to have you here.

Jill: Thank you. So excited to be here.

Nikkiey: Yes. So tell these WarriorBabes and anybody that's listening your story and how you got to be where you are now.

Jill: Yeah. So I've always been active my whole life: danced, gymnastics, cheerleading, the whole nine yards. And even after I had babies, I did weight programs and got all my weight back off. Then the 40s hit, and I did get mono early that year, which I feel like kind of affected a lot of my energy. And then I just kind of went downhill from there. So I started trying to just do what I could to get by, and it just never was enough. So then I went down the Instagram, social media route: don't eat this, keto this, gluten-free this, dairy that. And I knew, being a nurse, that cutting food out wasn't necessarily the answer. And I also knew that weights worked for me. So I just needed to get back to the basics. I wanted to be eating healthy, because I was eating clean. I was eating salads and cutting everything out that was supposed to be bad for me. And I'm like, I just know that there's a certain amount I should be eating, and don't cut any foods out, because I had had all the tests. I had allergy tests. I know dairy upsets my stomach, but gluten, all of those things, I didn't have to cut those out.

So then I found you, and I just read all those testimonials about the amounts of food people should be eating that are right for their bodies, and weight training. And I knew that was what was going to work for me. So I started the Blueprint, which was a great introduction, and I really did put myself into that, but it still didn't feel like I could trust myself to tweak the process. So I wanted to know. It was so annoying that I didn't know. And it was so simple once I did learn. That's the crazy thing. Because I was willing. I was like, I'll eat whatever I have to eat just to be able to have the weight training work for my body, because it wasn't like it used to. Back in the day I could just weight train and eat whatever, pretty clean, but then the 40s hit and that didn't work anymore. So once I got my energy level up, and I got some vitamins right in my body that were a little bit deficient, that did help with my energy. But mostly it was just the desire to know how to fix it. And once I put my mind to it, I'm like, I'm going to just trust the process. And that's exactly what I did.

Nikkiey: So I know you started with keto, right? You were doing keto before initially coming to WarriorBabe, right?

Jill: No, I mean, I tried keto and I just felt horrible. The one thing that I was really trying was intermittent fasting. And I finally ended up going to see integrated medicine just to talk to them about hormones and stuff. And he's like, it's the worst thing you could possibly do for your hormones at your age, to go this extended time. And my cortisol level was high, and I was sleeping badly, waking up in the middle of the night. And I honestly did not feel like that was right for my body. I would just push through, and I would feel my blood sugar dropping. I felt horrible. So yeah, that was the big thing that I did not like that I was trying to do. And I kind of felt like your stomach would be flatter, or I did get a little boost of energy here and there, but overall, no. Not enough of the right foods, for sure.

Nikkiey: Yeah. And we'll talk about the psychological side, like eating more food, because I'm curious to know what you were eating before you joined WarriorBabe, and then when you joined WarriorBabe, where we placed you at. We'll talk about that in an instant. But from where you were to where you are now, it's the transformation. I personally go to see your stats and I'm like, oh my God, her body keeps dropping. So it's incredible. So how are you right now? Well, I know you're still working because you're an essential worker as a nurse, and you work out from home. How are you still handling quality fitness and the nutrition side?

Jill: I was sad when the gym closed, because I had a really good routine going since January when I started. I would go get my workout done, and they had fresh towels and air conditioning and the whole thing. And then I was like, oh, this is going to stink. My husband did work out in the garage a lot. And back in the day I did do that. I did P90 in the garage in the heat with little babies there. So I knew I could do it. And then I started to get excited, because I didn't have to get ready to go anywhere. I could just literally throw my workout clothes on anytime and go out there. So I actually saw it as a big opportunity. I'm like, I don't have to travel with kids' sports, which I was supposed to be doing all summer. I was supposed to be gone every weekend, and that was kind of stressing me out. How am I going to work out? So I found I have two hours in my day to work out and just basically plan little foods. I don't make big, elaborate meals. So I was actually excited to work out, because I saw myself getting on a really good routine without the distraction of having to go places.

Nikkiey: Yes. So you feel like there's more time right now, because the kiddos aren't in school?

Jill: Yeah. I mean, my kids are pretty self-sufficient at this point, but I always felt guilty taking time away and leaving and doing something for myself. But then I was like, you know what? They're on their phones, or they're playing games, or they're with their friends. And I literally would just make excuses. I'm on my phone. I had to clean. I had this, I had that. And really that's what it comes down to. You have to stop making excuses. These two hours are for me. And I just had to get selfish a little bit about it, which nobody saw that way except me. My family was happy that I was doing it. So mentality-wise, I had to get excited about doing it. And for the most part, it's just part of my day now. I schedule things around my workout instead of my workout around my things.

Nikkiey: I love that. That's a big thing. That's awesome.

Jill: And if I mismanage, I have to work out after working a 12-hour shift, because I do my five-day workout regardless. So I really try not to do that. Those are my two days off. But I've been out there at nine, ten at night doing it.

Nikkiey: Wow. Like I said, you just came in and you do the work.

Jill: It's just a routine now. And macros, I made them this big, complicated thing in the beginning. And really, once it clicked and then they graduated me, I was like, oh, I'm on my own. That was kind of crazy, because I was making it so much more complicated than it was. So I've helped my friend and my sister-in-law really try to narrow it down. And I'm like, you just have to keep it simple. That's the biggest thing.

Nikkiey: Yeah. Don't overcomplicate.

Jill: And it's not really these big meals. And they'll say, but they're eating out or whatever. And I'm like, you know what? I don't feel like I'm missing out. I feel like I get a cheat meal, and on the weekends I tweak for what I want. And the rest of the week I'm eating for fuel. That's just how I see it.

Nikkiey: Yes. Functionality and fuel. A lot of people eat for emotions and eat for comfort, when it's really a shift to understand that your bodily processes, your cells, everything, need fuel in order to achieve the results that you want of gaining muscle or getting toned. You've got to look at it as fuel, because if you don't look at it as fuel, then people don't eat, right? A lot of women struggle with not eating.

Jill: That's what I used to do.

Nikkiey: Yeah. I love that you elaborated on that, because a lot of women complicate macros in the beginning. They just get overwhelmed and kind of toss it out the door. But I can't ever think of following something that's not macros. I just can't wrap my brain around following anything that's not macro-oriented. So I appreciate you elaborating on that, because a lot of women need to hear it. But let's talk about the psychological side of eating more. What were you doing before? And then when you came into WarriorBabe, how did you deal with having to eat more food to get to the goal that you've achieved?

Jill: Well, with the fasting, I tried to eat in the window, but then I felt like I was overeating, because you're trying to get it all in during the window. And I know that I'm not a huge meat eater, so I probably wasn't eating enough protein, and definitely way too many carbs. And then fats: in your head, you feel like you need good fats. So I was having too much avocado. Based on what I know now, way too much avocado. Maybe butter in my eggs, and full eggs. I ate real eggs, and now I'm an egg white person, because I want to put my fats other places. So yeah, I feel like some days I would barely eat anything, and then other days I would be starving. It just depended. Or I would have all my calories at dinner, kind of deal. That was a big thing. So now I just feel so much better with my food spaced out. And I'm not super anal about it. I know you're supposed to time it, but if I'm not having my workout till 10 or 11, that's probably my breakfast or pre-workout. So I sometimes end up having them a little closer together. But I feel when I need to eat now. So that's huge.

Nikkiey: How did you deal with coming into WarriorBabe and eating tons of food and all the carbs?

Jill: I was so full the first... yeah, that was hard. You had me eating, and probably, coming out of Christmas, I felt like I was just eating candy and crap that I shouldn't have been eating to begin with. But yeah, I was full, really full, eating that much food. And then I was starving.

Nikkiey: Exactly. That's another thing a lot of women struggle with. They come in, they're doing that first transition week, they're getting the macros, they're trying to hit them, and they're just like, oh my God, I can't stuff one more thing in my mouth. And then all of a sudden there's this switch that goes off. The metabolism gets riled up, and then people are asking for that food back. Can you elaborate more?

Jill: I remember looking at my phone like, did I switch the macros on accident? Because I was starving, and I'm like, this can't be. I felt like I had accidentally tweaked them the wrong way or something. But no. So yeah, the up and down. And I kind of met that 20 pounds, and that's where I wanted to be in six months. That was just the initial goal. And then you started adding some food. And I don't want to gain weight back, but I did feel like my muscles were deflating from being in the cut. So I definitely can lift heavier. I'm lifting so much heavier now. It's crazy, just from having more food. And I've actually still been losing with all that food.

Nikkiey: Let's talk about that too. The psychological part of eating is really good to talk with you about, because you've gone through the cut, reached your goal, and now we're adding in more food and you're still dropping. So share your emotions, how you felt with that. Did you expect this to still be happening?

Jill: I did not expect to keep losing weight, because I'm at 190 carbs as of yesterday. So I just work out extra hard. I always try to put my mind into it, but I definitely feel so much stronger when I'm eating like that. It's crazy. I don't let it really affect my emotions too much, because I still trust you with what's happening. If I go back to my mind where I'm not supposed to eat this much or this food, then I'm going down the same rabbit hole. So I've actually gotten results with this and I don't plan on changing it.

Nikkiey: So keep increasing your food and dropping. That's everyone's dream, right? But what I've noticed with you inside the program is you're just like, okay, and you just do it. You just put in the work. There's no questions asked. Because I think the big thing is trust. If you're getting the results, why question it? The results are happening. Things are working. And then you're meeting the belief, your true north, of being a nurse and what you know you need to be doing for your body, right?

Jill: Yeah. And I know that no one's going to do it for me. And you have those days. I've always noticed every time I'm about to get my period, you bloat, you feel like you're gaining weight, you don't have energy. And I'm like, this isn't working. And then you stop. But now with this program, I still feel tired and not as motivated, whatever. But I still go get it done. And I tell my sister-in-law this: it might not be your best. You go out there and you do what you can. But for me, it's a mental thing. I cannot miss a day. I cannot mess up my macros, because I don't want to feel bad the next day that I did that for a temporary little fix. And then that next week, I'm stronger and leaner than ever, just because I pushed through. It's crazy. And I have so much more energy. So I totally know the week of my period I'm going to feel this way, and next week I'm going to feel awesome. So that's huge.

Nikkiey: I'm glad that you're elaborating on exactly the points that women need to hear with this interview especially. I don't think I've ever talked about the PMS side or the period side, which is so great, because you're right. You know you're going to feel this way. And I think a lot of women get roped up in the emotion. It's more of a subconscious thing to just go in the kitchen and eat the chocolate to feel better. But you are kind of above it, on the conscious side of things. You're like, I know this is happening, and I know I'm going to be fine next week. So why derail progress right now, only to be almost hitting the reset button on the work that I've put in the past week or two, right?

Jill: Well, and if I have gone over on something, usually because I forgot to log it... I've gotten a little more intuitive with it. But I just don't beat myself up about it. I'm like, just get up and do the next day. You can't hold on to that. And that's a huge thing I used to do. So I just let it go and keep going. There haven't been many days that I've gone over, but I try to be really disciplined about it. I don't like that feeling that I've failed. There's no reason to not hit my macros, because I'm going to have a fat cheeseburger tomorrow night. You know what I mean? And I never feel good after I eat that big meal, because I've had to meet all the macros all day. But psychologically, I know I have a day off, so I don't need to do that the rest of the week.

Nikkiey: Exactly. And you don't turn it into more. You have your meal, you're satiated, you hit your cravings, whatever you wanted to have. And then it doesn't turn into two days, three days...

Jill: Nope.

Nikkiey: ...one month. You just get right back.

Jill: And all week I pretty much copy-paste and hit my same macros. I'll tweak stuff here and there, but mostly dinner is the only thing that changes. But on the weekends, if I want to go have sushi, I fit that in. It's not that we don't go out and do things. I just fit it in.

Nikkiey: So yeah, let's elaborate on that. You have a family, a husband, you have kids. How do you successfully still track your macros when you have a family?

Jill: Well, I definitely do it the night before. That was a huge lesson early on, and if anybody can take anything from this, that is key, because you cannot get up and log as you go. It doesn't work. I do try to keep things pretty consistent, and I keep the same foods in the house that I know how to meet my macros with. So the biggest thing is to find out what we're having for dinner, because dinner is what changes every day. I ask ahead of time. My husband likes to cook, so I just ask ahead, and I eat everything they eat. I just weigh it and know what I can have.

Nikkiey: The scale is your best friend.

Jill: Yeah, for sure. I literally have this tiny $10 scale that has changed my body. I didn't weigh my protein powder. When you guys taught me that, I just didn't realize that every little scoop is way off. So it's a big deal.

Nikkiey: Yeah, isn't that incredible? A lot of women think that they're eating healthy, and we'll kind of pull back on that topic. A lot of people think that they're eating healthy, yes, but what's the actual amount of sweet potato that you're putting on your plate? What's the actual amount of chicken that you're putting on your plate? The actual consumption of what you eat and how much you eat throughout the day contributes to hitting the 190 carbs, or whatever your protein and fats are. A lot of women don't realize there's a disconnect between eating healthy and eating enough. And that's how it helps you become aware, like, wow, I was not eating anywhere near what I should.

Jill: A whole salad was way past what... I mean, you're eating healthy, but you shouldn't have that. And I'm full with what I'm eating, so that just tells me that my body has what it needs. I'm never hungry after any meal of the day. I'm full from that one sitting, and I know another one's coming.

Nikkiey: Yeah, exactly. Absolutely. So maybe you can share on the awareness too. A lot of women look at tracking everything that they eat, or weighing everything that they eat, as obsessive. What would your take be on that, seeing what it's gotten you to right now? What insight can you share with that?

Jill: I mean, if that's the one thing you have to do to get to your goal, that's not hard at all. Once you learn how to use the scale, I just always have it there. And actually, by eating kind of repetitive meals, like I have the same pre-workout: eggs, oatmeal, the same shake that I even weigh, all the powder and everything. I already know the numbers that I have to eat. 40 grams of oatmeal, 33 grams of protein. It's in my head already. So it just makes it so much more simple. But if that's all I had to do to get to my goal, it's not hard at all. That is the easiest part.

Nikkiey: Yeah, absolutely. It's way easier than working out, right?

Jill: I was talking to my sister a lot, and she's like, oh, in the morning I have to weigh it. And I was like, you know what? Either do it the night before, but it literally takes a minute to weigh it. Yes, it feels kind of tedious if you're not used to doing it, but it's such a small amount of time for such a big gain.

Nikkiey: Yeah, absolutely. And honestly, it's more awareness of what you are actually fueling your body with.

Jill: Yeah. And when I go to a restaurant and I don't have my scale, I can totally guesstimate two ounces, three ounces of chicken, and I make it work. I don't necessarily need the scale anymore. I've done it so much now.

Nikkiey: You took the words out of my mouth. That's the good part. You learn portion sizes. Counting macros is not obsessive. I look at it as a skill that will serve you for the rest of your life. You don't necessarily have to track macronutrients or weigh shit out for the rest of your life. But A, it helps you to be way more aware, and B, it helps you learn what actual portion sizes are. Like you're saying, you can go out to a restaurant and, if you want to fit it into your macronutrients, you just portion it, or talk to the waiter and be like, hey, don't cook my shit in butter and oil, you know?

Jill: Yeah.

Nikkiey: You're just very in tune with the fats, the carbs and the protein of everything you eat.

Jill: Literally. And I knew those things, I just didn't know how to apply it. So for me, it's way easier than starving yourself half the day, or eating all fat all day. I had no energy at all. I felt horrible on keto, and I didn't get results from that. There's no way I could do keto and go out in that garage and do the workouts I'm doing. You just don't have energy for that.

Nikkiey: No way. Because your muscles...

Jill: And water. Water's a huge key to all of that.

Nikkiey: Yeah. Water could be talked about in a whole other interview. How much water are you drinking a day now?

Jill: I usually drink about a gallon, a gallon and a half. It just depends on my workout in the heat.

Nikkiey: Yeah, living where you live, I would be downing water.

Jill: I have this little thing in my head: in between every set, I take five big sips, and I'm done with a liter by the end of my workout.

Nikkiey: That's awesome. Play a little head games with yourself.

Jill: Exactly.

Nikkiey: That's what it comes down to. So this is the thing. So many women struggle with getting the water in. They struggle with hitting their macros when they're first starting out, right? So what are some pointers you can give them in that realm, as to how to drink more water and how to hit their macros when starting?

Jill: Well, planning the night before is key, putting them in. And then in the beginning, I did really watch the time. I would try to space the meals out, because then you weren't starving. If you tried to group them together, you would be really hungry by the end of the night. For the water, I've always been a big water drinker, but I would get up and literally drink half my bottle. I have a 32-ounce, and I would drink half of it right when I got out of bed, and then pretty much the other half by the time I've had my coffee. So there's one down, one with my workout, and then I just have it with me all day. So the water wasn't really a chore. When I'm working it's a little bit of a chore, but I still try to hit it.

Nikkiey: Yeah. How do you deal with being on shift as a nurse?

Jill: I keep a water bottle with me at the desk all the time. So whenever I come out, I literally try to drink half of it. And I'm really good with snacks. I kind of view my meals as snacks at work, because I have to go to the bathroom and I'll run and down my snack really fast. I'm a labor nurse, so you could be pushing with someone for three hours, and I'm like, I feel my blood sugar drop now. I just have someone come in and take over for a minute, and I can down one meal in two minutes. No problem.

Nikkiey: Yeah. Say that freaking louder. Because in the Q&As, in the Revolution or any of the Q&As with the babes, the common thing that I hear is, I'm too busy at work. And I'm like, dude, I was a nurse. I work with nurses. You just have to bring simple food. You can't have a platter with your napkin and your fork and your knife. That's not the kind of food you eat.

Jill: I eat cottage cheese, a sandwich, real quick, and I'm full. I bring pretzels, a sandwich, my cottage cheese, yogurt, my shake. The shake you can down at the desk. And then I make my breakfast every morning and eat that right before I go in. So you eat at the three-hour mark, and then eat again. And at this point, they all know that I have to eat.

Nikkiey: Yeah. And how is your work performance? Are you more on point?

Jill: Yeah. My brain's way more clear. I don't have the up and down. I used to live on coffee, because if you're fasting until noon and you've been up since five, you're starving and your brain is not good. And I drink a lot less coffee now because I'm eating and I'm drinking water. So that was another huge revelation. I don't need that. I was looking for energy that way, but now I don't need it. Sometimes I don't even feel like drinking coffee. It's crazy. And I'm a coffee freak.

Nikkiey: Yeah, that is awesome. So cool. So you don't bring chicken, broccoli and rice to your shift. You bring snacks, stuff that's really easy for you to hit and down within two minutes. And just asking, that's the thing. I think a lot of women are afraid to just be like, hey coworker, hey guys, can you just watch my patients or cover my desk for two minutes while I go and down my food?

Jill: Or I put it in the purse under the desk and I just keep eating.

Nikkiey: Yeah, exactly. Bags are great. So what is some advice you could give someone who is just starting their fitness journey?

Jill: I would say first do your research and learn what you need to know before you start. And then you've got to trust the process. You can't jump around. You can't do this halfheartedly. I remember I felt horrible when I first went to the gym, because I've always been in cute workout clothes and wanted to be that person. I was always fit. And then I was so embarrassed of my arms and just everything that I just put a big t-shirt on. I didn't even look in the mirror. I put my head down and I just did the workouts, got on the elliptical and went home. And I just kept repeating that, following every single thing you told me. And then one day I was like, I can wear a tank top, because my arms look better.

So if there's anything: you just can't nitpick every day, every little roll and every little bit of soreness. You have to fight through a couple of weeks of that. So put your head down and do it. Consistency is the only thing that's going to work. If you give up and keep doing stop, start, stop, start, that's not going to work. So just plug at it every single day. And then one day you'll be like, wow, my back rolls are going away. That was huge for me. That was the one thing, and I knew that was going to be the last to go, because you said it was fat loss. The spots that you want to go are going to be the last ones to go. But one day you're going to wake up and your clothes are falling off. So that's my advice, I guess: consistency and discipline, because you're not going to feel like doing it every day.

Nikkiey: Exactly. Have you messed up? Have you hit rocks in the road? What did you do?

Jill: Oh yeah. I don't feel like going to work out, but I know I'm going to regret it if I don't. So I don't ever skip it, for sure, unless I'm on my deathbed. And I've suffered from migraines my whole life, and I maybe have one a month now. It's so crazy.

Nikkiey: Wow. That's wild. That's awesome, babe. So those are some huge pointers. Consistency. Because many women are great Monday through Friday, Saturday and Sunday off, back on it Monday through Friday, and then they're like, why am I not seeing results? Why do you think you're not seeing results? Consistency is really key. That's a great pointer. And I love the fact that you said don't nitpick yourself. If you can't love yourself right now, when you're starting this journey, you ain't going to love yourself when you reach the goal. You're still going to be nitpicking at that point. So that's why you need pictures.

Jill: Yes. A hundred percent. It's the worst thing ever in the beginning.

Nikkiey: Yeah, for sure. A lot of women are like, I don't want to take pictures. But why are you starting this journey? Because of that picture, right? To change that. And it kind of brings them to more conscious awareness too, like, wow, this is what I look like. I'm sure you felt that way. Like, wow, I need to make a change, and this is why I'm making a change.

Jill: Yeah.

Nikkiey: So what does WarriorBabe mean to you? What does being a WarriorBabe mean to you?

Jill: I feel like it's being part of a tribe of people who have the same goal. You're not going to have this support or hear it from everyone around you every day. This has to be something within you. And the people within the WarriorBabe community have that same feeling and goal. So to hear their struggles and their successes too, to watch everyone succeed, is huge, because there aren't many places you can go and get that positive affirmation. That's what I love about it. I know I can go somewhere and scroll through pictures and hear people's struggles, hear people's successes, and I feel better. Because your kids aren't going to tell you. I mean, my kids have noticed that I've lost weight and that I'm getting stronger, but you're not going to hear it every single day, right?

One of my biggest goals was to wear shorts again. I hadn't worn shorts in like four years. And one day I walked out of my room in shorts, and literally my whole house noticed. My husband was like, are you wearing shorts? I'm like, yes, I have leg muscles. So he noticed that big time. But yeah, that's what I love about it. And if I have a question, you don't want to feel like you're in the dark, especially when you're beginning and you don't really understand the macros, you don't understand the workouts. There's always someone you can ask and lean on that way. So that's been huge.

Nikkiey: Yeah. Talking about the support side of things, it's so true. You go into the communities and you're just seeing other women who are like-minded, like you, working towards the same goals. And one day one pops into the group and they're like, I fucked up, or I'm experiencing this. Those are the ones that I see, and then there are like 50 comments underneath it. It's such a supportive atmosphere when you have like-minded women around you, even virtually, working towards the same goals. It kind of gets you to wake up every day and be like, I know there's another WarriorBabe, especially in Texas, there are tons of you guys down there. I know there's somebody here working out and doing the same thing, hitting their macros. So it just helps you to show up even more, which is so cool.

Jill: Yeah. And especially when you see their before and afters, their muscles, after they've worked so hard, it's like, I want those.

Nikkiey: Yeah. Or, I have those. Exactly. And you're inspiring. I know you've inspired so many women. They're looking at your before and after and they're like, damn. And that just motivates them. So you're inspiring them and you're inspired by them. That's what's so cool. So let's close this out with your favorite snack or your favorite macro combo.

Jill: I'm pretty simple, but I make this sandwich. I love sandwiches, and I would always not get sandwiches because there was bread, right? So I use Dave's Killer Bread thin-sliced bread, and then I put a wedge of Laughing Cow Light cheese. I spread that on the bread, and then turkey and a little bit of mustard. And then I grill it, and it's like a grilled cheese sandwich. It's so good.

Nikkiey: My mouth is watering. Oh my God. I need to try this out.

Jill: I just use a little bit of nonfat spray, and it gets crunchy. It's so good. So it's like grilled cheese, but you have turkey in it. I use the Applegate turkey. It's organic and good.

Nikkiey: I need to try that.

Jill: And then All American Nut Butter and chocolate rice cakes are my go-to at night. That's my dessert.

Nikkiey: All American Nut Butter?

Jill: Yeah. Mine's in the mailbox. They just delivered it.

Nikkiey: Did it really? That's awesome. Oh, great. I'm going to have to try out that Dave's Killer Bread, the Laughing Cow and some turkey. Oh, that sounds so good.

Jill: So good.

Nikkiey: Yes. All right. And then what's your favorite muscle group to work out?

Jill: I think shoulders and back. Those are my two go-tos. I mean, I like legs, it's just so...

Nikkiey: That's true.

Jill: I looked at my heart rate and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm at 165, and I was just doing squats or something. I love legs, I'm just exhausted after leg day for sure. And I think the heat is really affecting me right now. I do miss the leg press and things at the gym that I used to be able to do, but I've made it work. We have at least a squat rack, so that's good.

Nikkiey: That's awesome. That squat rack sounds so nice. A lot of WarriorBabes say shoulders.

Jill: Yeah. I didn't like it in the beginning at all, because you can't really lift very heavy with shoulders. So it was a struggle. But once you start seeing your traps and your results come in, then it's nice to get the pump.

Nikkiey: Yes, absolutely. Oh, I love it. All right, guys. For those of you who want to learn more about the programs that WarriorBabe offers and how to get started, check out www.warriorbabe.com and become a part of thousands of women, just like Jill and all of the other women we're talking about inside this program, who are getting toned and becoming stronger, more confident versions of themselves. Thank you, Jill, for your time today. You dropped some serious golden nuggets, some serious bombs that will help these babes. You expanded on so many things that women are struggling with. I appreciate it.

Jill: Thank you.

Nikkiey: All right. Bye, everybody.